DUST Search - Increase swarm launcher range to 300m

Deveshi wrote:

EnglishSnake wrote:

Deveshi wrote:

EnglishSnake wrote:

Deveshi wrote:

The swarm launcher already has so many draw backs:

- Cannot defend against infanty without a secondary weapon.
- Has pitiful damage compared to the forge gun.
- Tracking is appauling.
- 6 rounds of ammo on an advanced version!

At the very least you could allow us to be able to hit something without the need to stand right in front of it! The swarm launch is designed to be carried by light infancy, not heavies, so why such the crappy range?

In a skirmish match the map usually extends about a kilometer in length so increasing the range of the swarm launcher to 300m won't exactly be game breaking and it might mean that my missiles which do s**t all damage might actually be able to hit their target so they can inflict s**t all damage.

This would be a good start.

Pure BS all day long

Its a primary weapon for taking out vehicles its why its a light weapon so you can fit on a decent sidearm

Pitiful damage? both milita SL and FG do 1200 damage off the bat without any damage mods or skills taken into account and 30% more damage against armor

Tracking is bad? really so locking on through cover then jumping while firing so you can stay behind the hill and knowing that the missiles will bend around cover to hit that HAV isnt good enough for you? tbh SL is OP and badly broken if you want tracking to be fixed then missiles shouldnt bend around mountains to hit HAVs like they do now instead they should hit the mountain instead

6 round at what 5missiles each causing about 1500 damage per volley? that is enough to take out any top tank

Did you just copy and paste what the previous guy said?

Doesnt even counter what i said, seems that OP realises what i said is true and correct thus ther is no counter

Because you essentially wrote the same as the guy before which I have already responded to. Learn to read and come back when you have something further to add of relevance.


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Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 73	Posted - 2013.01.01 12:01:00 - [1] - Quote Advantages of a Swarm Launcher: +Doesn't Require Fatboy Suit +Never Misses, especially useful against Dropships +Extra Damage against Armor Advantages of a Forge Gun: +Slightly more damage against Shields Yep. Forge Gun is totally overpowered compared to the Swarm Launcher. Except it isn't. Swarm Launcher fires up to four missiles at once, each can deal 300 damage. Forge Gun fires one round and it can deal 1200 damage. On paper, it ends up being the same, but Forge Guns don't fire *homing* missiles.
Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 73	Posted - 2013.01.01 17:22:00 - [2] - Quote Deveshi wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: +Never Misses, especially useful against Dropships = bo***cks No, I'm right. It never misses. Until acted upon by an external force. Just like motion.
Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 73	Posted - 2013.01.01 19:57:00 - [3] - Quote I don't mind if the swarm launcher has greater range. In fact, that would be nice, if the swarm launcher wasn't effectively better than a forge gun. Almost every time one of my HAVs is destroyed, it's from a swarm launcher. Not a forge gun, a swarm launcher. Not just any swarm launcher, a militia variant. They can hide better, they can flank me better, they have a better chance of at least partially hitting me than Forge Gunners, and the explosive damage is killer against armor.
Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 73	Posted - 2013.01.02 11:04:00 - [4] - Quote Deveshi wrote: EnglishSnake wrote: Deveshi wrote: EnglishSnake wrote: Deveshi wrote: The swarm launcher already has so many draw backs: - Cannot defend against infanty without a secondary weapon. - Has pitiful damage compared to the forge gun. - Tracking is appauling. - 6 rounds of ammo on an advanced version! At the very least you could allow us to be able to hit something without the need to stand right in front of it! The swarm launch is designed to be carried by light infancy, not heavies, so why such the crappy range? In a skirmish match the map usually extends about a kilometer in length so increasing the range of the swarm launcher to 300m won't exactly be game breaking and it might mean that my missiles which do st all damage might actually be able to hit their target so they can inflict st all damage. This would be a good start. Pure BS all day long Its a primary weapon for taking out vehicles its why its a light weapon so you can fit on a decent sidearm Pitiful damage? both milita SL and FG do 1200 damage off the bat without any damage mods or skills taken into account and 30% more damage against armor Tracking is bad? really so locking on through cover then jumping while firing so you can stay behind the hill and knowing that the missiles will bend around cover to hit that HAV isnt good enough for you? tbh SL is OP and badly broken if you want tracking to be fixed then missiles shouldnt bend around mountains to hit HAVs like they do now instead they should hit the mountain instead 6 round at what 5missiles each causing about 1500 damage per volley? that is enough to take out any top tank Did you just copy and paste what the previous guy said? Doesnt even counter what i said, seems that OP realises what i said is true and correct thus ther is no counter Because you essentially wrote the same as the guy before which I have already responded to. Learn to read and come back when you have something further to add of relevance. No, he didn't. At least not completely. Stop being an arse and start realizing how overpowered swarm launchers already are. We are all trying to tell you, but you are not listening. I wouldn't mind if they had a longer range, or were easier to use than forge guns, or had better tracking, but for god's sake, they need to be weaker first! Edit: You are being an arse because you are trying to find excuses to not countering arguments, and you are trying to say that he is a copier and irrelevant, not because you think swarm launchers are underpowered. Stupidity isn't quite the same as jackarsery, but you are entitled to your own opinion.